QUESTION AND ANSWER SESSION WITH PASTOR CHRIS.
HOW TO DEAL WITH HOMOSEXUALITY
Question from Mark (USA): Dear Pastor Chris, you spoke about homosexuality and how it is a sickness of the mind. Pastor, how can one get rid of it? Does the person have to go about seeking prayers or just control his body through God’s word? Also, how do we handle the homosexuals in the church and community? Is Hatred towards them right or should we just pray for them?
ANSWER: Hatred towards anybody will never be right, no matter how bad such a person has been or no matter how sinful. Hatred is not acceptable from us toward anybody. Now, you said, “…how can one get rid of homosexuality? Does the person have to go about seeking prayers or just control his body through God’s word?” Now, it depends on the seriousness of the condition. There are three levels of homosexuality and, in fact, many other practices that people are involved in.
THE FIRST ONE IS:
1.) The level of fascination. Now, at the level of fascination, you can, through your meditation on God’s word [you know], get rid of it yourself; you can! You meditate on God’s word and by changing your mind, you would [you can] effect changes in your way of life, and that’ll be the end of homosexuality; but you’ve got to make up your mind for that.
2.) The second level is the level of habit. Now, at the level of habit, you are more or less under the control of your own mind, but a way of life that has now…because, in the beginning, we control [we create] our habits, but in the end, our habits produce a character for us. So, once it has come to the second level of a habit, you would need to break it through another habit; which means, you have to develop a new habit of consciousness of the word of God. That’s a little more difficult for younger Christians. But it is possible, and necessary, if you are already at the level of habit, which is the second level. It does mean that you would need to produce or create a new habit – the habit of not doing it – the habit of replacing your thoughts with certain thoughts of God and being in certain places instead of what would normally attract your attention or your interest to homosexuality. So, you develop a new kind of habit. Like I said, it requires a lot more discipline than the first level.
3.) Now, the third level is where you would require someone to help you; your Pastor will be able to help you. Of course, any other more mature Christian can do that for you, but, always better when you talk with your Pastor. That third level isthe demonic level. Now, the demonic level is where a demon has now taken advantage of what you were fascinated with that became a habit, and began to control your mind to this level where this demon, having observed you and observed your interest, has taken a hold of you in this area of your life. And so, [it] can make you subject to his dictates—anytime. You are now in bondage.
See, it’s come to a demonic level; you are now in bondage to that devil. You have yielded to that devil and that devil must be cast out. It must be cast out of your mind, out of your system, before you will be free. Now, can you do that yourself? Oh, yes! It is possible also; but, it does require more knowledge of the word, more….a better understanding of the scriptures and definiteness of purpose. You make up your mind [that] this is what you want and you’re going to have to have it this way. And then, you ask that devil to go and you’ll have to trust, in faith, that that devil heard you. But if you go to someone who’s more mature than you, it’ll be far better because he’ll cast that devil out of you and you’ll keep the devil out. So, that’s why I said it depends on which of these levels the homosexual is: fascination level, habit level or the demonic level.
Now, you say, “how can one know?” Okay. How can you know what level you’re in? That’s why I said you better go to your Pastor and say, “look, this is what I’ve been doing” and, through the Spirit of God and by ministering to you, he can tell how far-gone you are. And, if you’ve been trying to get out of it yourself, you would know because of the difficulty you’ve experienced in trying to come out of it; you can tell at what level you might have found yourself.